Thursday, December 01, 2005

Richard Loves Charlie

There is nothing worse than the returned immigrant who complains endlessly about his home country and compares it negatively to his adopted homeland. My parents' generation would have been familiar with this stereotype. The newly minted Yank. However, the roles have reversed. When I get home, things seem dramatically improved, (though, saying that, Galway's urban planners seem to go out of their way to destroy the city's charm), but when I mention this, the retort is an endless barrage of complaints: Ireland is too expensive, too corrupt, the traffic is dreadful, etc. Not that these aren't legitimate complaints, but no one seems to remember how bad it was before. Recently, my Dad put all his Super 8 silent movies on video for me. Plenty of wet and windy St. Paddy's Day parades. What is most noticeable is how dreary and run down Limerick looked compared with today.

Richard Delevan writes at Richard Delevan's sicNotes blog. He also writes for the Irish newspaper, The Sunday Tribune. I don't agree with much of what he says on Iraq, and some of what he says generally, but I like his directness and honesty, and it's always good to hear an intelligent view point which differs from your own. He has an entry today about Charlie McCreevey. Up to last year, before he was appointed European Commissioner with responsibility for the Internal Market and Services portfolio, McCreevey was Ireland's Finance Minister. He was the intellectual, and arguably the actual architect, of Ireland's new found prosperity. Here's a quote from Delevan's post, which also appeared in the Tribune:


“It took nearly 30 years for Charlie McCreevy's ideas to be accepted across most of the political spectrum and for their astounding success to be realised. It's taken just a year since he left for people to begin to forget why we have the luxury and freedom to debate how to best enjoy our prosperity."




I couldn’t agree more. I liked it so much I emailed Richard. Here's what I said:

Great post Richard. I read your blog regularly, although we disagree on many things, I like hearing your point of view.
I am your reverse a not so stray Irishman in the U.S. It drives me up the wall how Irish people moan about their successes. I left when there was 22% unemployment, and that included me and all my mates, most of whom had postgraduate qualifications. All of them left. Most came back again, and many have enjoyed the fruits of the Celtic Tiger. Several started business, they all have families and have bought houses, this was almost inconceivable 15 years ago. There was a strain of left wing thinking, (as opposed to Liberal thinking - there is a difference), that was the accepted norm when I was in college. It was a form of anti-capitalism that came from a general lack of experience in the real world. I often feel that many of my Irish peers are either still stuck in this rut, or have failed to develop politically and instead have adopted cynicism as a political ideology - despite all evidence to the contrary.
I hated Fianna Fail in college, they seemed so self-serving and corrupt, and I still can't trust them without the PD’s to keep them in line, (the reverse is also true), but I always admired Charlie McCreevey, He seemed a straight talker who understood reality and worked within its confines. Ireland's John McCain, if you will. That he made such an impression, in a country where being honest can be political suicide, is a miracle.

4 Comments:

Blogger Alive in Limerick said...

Hmmm...not so sure about the McCreevy-worship. The foundations for our prosperity were laid by Whittaker & Lemass in the late 50s and the 60s. Irresponsible government by both sides, but particularly Fianna Fail and especially in the late 70s, delayed any real prosperity. The real landmark for me is the social partnership that began in 1987. Fiann Fail were implementing Fine Gael economic policies (Duke's 'Tallaght strategy') and everyone realised the need for progress.

You credit McCreevy with too much. His lasting legacy is the unequal distribution of our new-found prosperity so that our 'wealth gap' is comparable to America's. If McCreevy is our John McCain, then that makes Fianna Fail the Republican Party and we all know how they pander to the wealthy elite.

This is way beyond my remit as a Limerick blogger!

4:52 AM  
Blogger John Mc said...

You are right about Whittaker @ Lemass etc. The First programmed For Economic Expansion was a huge success, and the building blocks for future successes were laid. It’s also true that the young guns Lemass promoted to cabinet positions, (Haughey and his cabal), derailed any momentum, were unable to cope with changing times and lined their own pockets in the process. Much of Lemass’s innovations were in the area of government control over the economy. Semi-state enterprises etc. While this was appropriate for the time, it quickly became outdated and untenable. Mc Greevey's more free market policies have achieved enormous growth in every area and most likely this growth will continue, and his bullheadedness and sure handedness meant things moved much faster than they would have without him. He successfully fought entrenched powers, and on several occasions paid a huge political price for it. Whatever you may think, he is a man of great integrity.
Your income gap comments although true on the surface do not mean that those on the lower end are less well off than before. Without going into reams of stats, (you can probably search for this yourself), the gap may be bigger because there are more rich people in Ireland than before. However most people in Ireland now have much more money / wealth than they had before, so even though the gap is bigger, those on the bottom rungs are better off, (in real terms), than they were 10 years ago.

Re: McCain. He may be in the Republican Party, but in many he acts more like an Independent. In a two party system the only way to achieve power is to be in one party or the other. McCain although a hawk, is a pretty moderate Republican, and has no truck with the zealots on the evangelical side of the party.

2:18 PM  
Blogger Alive in Limerick said...

Next time I see McCain hugging Bush I'll try to remember that!

Maybe being so far from home means you don't realise how beholden to the wealthy that McCreevy was and how this was reflected in his budgets.

I prefer the Scandinavian model with its free market ethos combined with a comprehensive welfare state.

But you've chosen to live in a country where free markets run wild and where it'll take a minor econmic miracle to put all 3 of your kids through a good college. Good luck with that!

9:28 AM  
Blogger John Mc said...

I may be too far away to fully understand McCreevey’s full effect on Ireland. However right back atcha. Your comments show you are not quite up on the US, and underline my opinion that a lot of European Anti-Americanism is very broad stroke. Although people have good reason to be pissed off, with the current shower in office, it’s not often well though out, and there is very little real understanding. I find this is all part of a general attitude of cynicism, which is always easier than having an educated position.

If you see McCain hugging Bush let me know  They hate each other. McCain seems to delight in tripping him up. All they agree on is the Iraq war, (one of the reasons I probably couldn't vote for McCain). As far as I can tell, McCain thinks Bush is an incompetent idiot who made a bollox of it. McCain does his best to avoid being photographed with him. Of course he is a politician and photo-ops are a fact of life for him.

Whether McGreevey was beholding to the wealthy or not is debatable.. It’s all a matter of economic philosophy, and back when it seemed he would be permanently assigned to the back beaches, and the powers that be hated him, he was still espousing these policies. I would argue that McCreevey is the exact example of a Free Market Welfare state mix. Ultimately the more government control there is over an economy, the more it will cost you in tax, the less entrepreneurs their will be, the more beaurocracy etc. However when you reverse it you get more corporate corruption. Ultimately it's all about balance. What is true is that the large majority of the population are better of after his policies than before.

I agree with you, I think some aspects of the Welfare State are necessary. Free healthcare and education are essential. These are massive problems in the US. However why the fuck a government should be taking tax payers money to run an airline, or a bus system, or even a train system is beyond me. Competition in all those areas is much better for the consumer.

Regarding US education, there are cheap colleges in the US under the state system, the state university system, or the Community College system, (like the old IT's in Ireland, but like them, although good, they lack prestige). If you are a resident of a state your costs are massively reduced. The California University system includes Berkeley and the California State system includes Cal Tech in California two of the best universities in the world. That said education in the US is in a bad state, and is way too expensive, and the competition to get into the good colleges is intense although in Cali the top 13% of High School graduates are guaranteed a place in the state or university system. Wikipedia has a good page on this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_State_University.

Re funding my kids education - they are Irish Citizens, I'll send them home! Actually, I can put before tax money into some mutual funds and statistically over the 18 years before my kids go to college it should do nicely and substantially defray any costs I will have. There are a lot of incentives to save for education here. If you have the spare cash of course.

12:08 PM  

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